Post by Jack on Jul 7, 2007 15:11:07 GMT -5
Here it is, we discussed a CoC, trials and trial members, ranks, and admin. Feel free to add your opinion on these topics!
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
Good day everyone
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
the first thing i wanted to bring up was whether or not you guys think we should have a CoC
Vince says:
Aye
Vince says:
we should
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
alright, what do you think should be the conduct required in it?
Vince says:
Same stuff as old-school SR
Lavitz says:
well i think we should have a set of rules that will keep things at least a bit under control
Lavitz says:
but nothign too strict
Vince says:
basically, be nice, limit foul language, follow rules, etc
Lavitz says:
i know one thing ronin wanted was to keep the offencive/abusive/swear words to an extreme minimum
Lavitz says:
both in game and on forums
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well on the forums that can be done with a censor
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
in game the admins have to monitor that
Vince says:
Aye
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
so would it be ok for occasional cussing as long as it isnt excessive?
Lavitz says:
but we dont need constant ampsay spams... ahem vinny...
Vince says:
Yes
Vince says:
Ronin doesnt mind the occasional cussing
Vince says:
Hes stated that before
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok so we should have a CoC, should people have to agree to it in order to join?
Vince says:
sure
Raian says:
The admins would only have to censor more extreme words methinks. Words like Damn shouldn't be included.
Vince says:
I agree with Runis
Lavitz says:
well if they dont agree to it, thats is them simply stating that they are going to break the rules and eventually be removed. so id sauy yes
Raian says:
They should, that way we have a "legally binding" contract that everyone has to follow.
Vince says:
I dont care about damn, hell, son of a bitch
Vince says:
just the extreme stuffs
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and how many strikes do you think people should get?
Vince says:
3
Lavitz says:
2
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
3?
Vince says:
well, kick on 3rd strike
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
id think a warning and then the punishment
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well kick is when they need to be removed from the server
Lavitz says:
if they break the rules once, they get warned. if they do it again they deserve punishment
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but first they lame, they get warned verbally
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
next time they are slept
Raian says:
Lets say an admin does not want to censor words on the surver. If they sign the contract they have no choice but to do so y'know?
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
next the are kicked
Vince says:
thats what I mean jack
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Raian says:
or we keep them around for amusment...and make a game out of them if any of you remember us doing that.
Vince says:
oh yeah!
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
true
Vince says:
lawl
Lavitz says:
omg dont start vicky...
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok so in the CoC no excessive language, no laming, no spamming...anything else?
Raian says:
Eh Jamie? make sure to add respect to that
Vince says:
haha, Jamie is a total girlie name
Lavitz says:
heh heh yea guess we could use a little but of that
Lavitz says:
so is vicky
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and above all respect the people you play with
Vince says:
yeop
Lavitz says:
bit*
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
next item of business
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
recruiting
Raian says:
I think ronin already covered that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
i know
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but give your thoughts and suggestions
Raian says:
3 week trial period, we look for good behavior etc. etc.
Vince says:
yeah
Vince says:
basically, SR rules
Raian says:
Master can be asigned if they soo desire and/or need to be trained
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
are they given a master when they are on their trial period
Lavitz says:
lets face it. this game is not as popular as it was day 1. but look at the server list. its still HUGE. so i think over time, we will get a lot of member traffic.
Lavitz says:
if they need one jack
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
then we need to define the master's duties
Lavitz says:
well, i guess one could be assigned as a buddy reguardless of their skill level
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
so that we dont run into the same problems we had in sr
Lavitz says:
someone who can help them out and get to know everyone and such
Vince says:
aye
Vince says:
I agree with James here
Lavitz says:
kinda like someone to shadow like you would maybe on the first day of a new job
Lavitz says:
get them familiar with forum and server rules, show them around and introduce them to other members, tell them who the whores are that they need to look out for and such.
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
is it the masters responsibility to end trial the new member at the apropriate time?
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
or should the new recruit post about it?
Vince says:
Maybe we should have a few set masters, whos job is to help the new guys out
Raian says:
If master will be a rank, then I'd say yes.
Lavitz says:
i think that the day a new recruit joins should be recorded in their welcome post and then it is the masters responsibility to keep track of when the trail period should end
Lavitz says:
the end date should be posted in the welcome post as well maybe
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok thats a good idea
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
masters can refer to their welcome post as a guideline for their end trial date
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and should trials be like they were in sr?
Vince says:
sure
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
4/6 or on the grace of the master?
Vince says:
it worked for SR
Raian says:
we can always have a master forum section where the name of the recruit is posted with their beginnign date and the end date
Lavitz says:
i liked the trial setup as far as end trials go that we had set up
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Lavitz says:
3 fights against 2 members.
Lavitz says:
4/6 or maybe even 3/6
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well thats why its 4/6 or on the grace of the master
Lavitz says:
as well as going on forum and game activity and how well liked they are
Raian says:
Perhaps we shouldn't be SO lenient as we were back then, letting a lot of people passby when it was obvious that they needed to learn more
Vince says:
well this clan isnt all about skill
Lavitz says:
well perhaps we should allow those who do not get 4/6 to join on a sort of 2nd trial period
Lavitz says:
but where they are recognised as members of the clan
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
in sr they got another trial period
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
another week before their next end trial
Lavitz says:
and then they could have second trials after learning more with their master and then we go by the results there
Raian says:
It may not be about skill, but we should not let somone who obviously knows nothing in. Getting better shows sort of a commitment to the game/clan. A characteristic that is something we sorta overlooked before.
Vince says:
True
Lavitz says:
like jack said, the thing we had before where they get another week as trial members. but i think it should be a bit more extended. they arent going to learn much mor ein a week
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if they failed again they got another week
Lavitz says:
see we need to cut down on that though. i mean if we keep giving them another week, and another week, and another week, it will go ojn forever
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
until they get in
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
what i think about that is that yes it could go on forever
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
unless we make it the masters duty to get together with the student and really work on things with them
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and if they cant get a master to help out and do so
Raian says:
If it continues forever the master will have to decide if its A) due to the Initiate or B) due to the fact their training does not cut it.
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
that too
Vince says:
theres a lot of things about dueling that you cant teach
Raian says:
Example?
Vince says:
timing
Lavitz says:
getting people to break their habit of using red overhead. every. single. time.
Vince says:
I win duels with it
Vince says:
shut the fudge up about it already
Lavitz says:
ease up a bit there vinny
Vince says:
Well dude, every single day SOMEONE bitches about it
Vince says:
its getting annoying
Lavitz says:
remember the respect thing jack mentioned?
Vince says:
You started it
Raian says:
Kids...LAv stop antagonizing and poket keep your cool
Raian says:
save that for a seperate conversation
Lavitz says:
its jaden. not poke.
Vince says:
lol
Raian says:
MOVING on ( i mispelled pocket)
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
what we can do about that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
we can take them aside for an hour
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and im willing to break them in
Raian says:
For the record Lav your not so great yourself so you can learn just as much as he can.
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
duel them for hours if need be
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but what you are talking about
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
comes with experience
Raian says:
Aye breaking them, Like "the Demon" broke us Jack?
Lavitz says:
i know. im not gonna deny that statemenet at all. but he didnt have to yell at me
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
so if they need a crash course in it so be it
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
yes
Vince says:
You didnt have to bitch about me
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
the "demon" with a cold...muahaha
Raian says:
He doesn't even have one...
Raian says:
Moving on
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
anyways
Raian says:
You can teach timing
Raian says:
I did and Jack picked it up pretty well
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
it takes time though
Raian says:
same with Drax
Raian says:
its not an easy W,D,W but its possible
Raian says:
whether the person absorbs that knowledge being taught...different story
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but what happens is lets say a pomising student fails his end trials
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
then their master lets someone know
Vince says:
I failed both my end trials
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
another master
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but listen
Vince says:
I got let in SR because of my attitude
Vince says:
so
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok thats good
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
we'll be looking for that too
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but what im saying is we have as many people as we can support this new student
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if everywhere s/he turns they get encouragement
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and help, it'll show in their next end trial
Raian says:
It's not that they HAVE to passtheir trial, but we need to see evidence that they are capable of doing so and one day have the capasity to do so
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
getting 4/6 is really what to shoot for
Raian says:
And more like they turn to the Master"S" not just the assigned Master
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if you stay positive despite the fact that you maybe dont get it
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
we like that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
dont we?
Vince says:
Aye
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
anything else to add here?
Raian says:
Admin
Raian says:
How to use it
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
i mean about trials
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ill get to admin
Raian says:
oh..my bad
Raian says:
I think it should be a rank
Lavitz says:
i agree with the turning to new masters thing. ive worked with mourt, sano, and you jack and with each new master ive gotten better. so learning from multiple people helps
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
trial members have a rank?
Raian says:
We don't want masters to be people who cant do it due to either Time constraints or lack of ability to do so
Lavitz says:
yea. Trial Member\
Vince says:
noob<XA>
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
like in sr
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ah
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
sure
Lavitz says:
that way, people know who the trial members are. people know who the masters are
Lavitz says:
that way if a trial member shows up and cant get a hold of his master, someone can point him in the direction of a different master
Vince says:
yeah
Vince says:
I had to get a different master in SR
Vince says:
cause Macnac was never opn
Vince says:
on*
Raian says:
I'm thinking they should be assigned a Master, more that that Masters should be around for them to get help from
Raian says:
For some the fact you MUST have a master is degrading
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
we can ask new recruits if they want a master
Vince says:
well if they cant handle the fact that they need improvement...
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but if its fairly obvious they need one then we can assign one
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
some people teach themselves
Vince says:
true
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
alright anything else on the subject of trials?
Raian says:
oops
Vince says:
I got nothin
Raian says:
"Should NOT be assigned*"
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Lavitz says:
umm for end trials
Lavitz says:
one sec jack
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
k
Lavitz says:
we need to have a setup where we can have people on to do end trials for trial members
Lavitz says:
both people to run the trials,
Lavitz says:
and people to be part fo them
Lavitz says:
oF*
Lavitz says:
of**
Vince says:
Im always availabe for the most part
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if ya know how to run them respectfully i dont have a problem with you running them
Lavitz says:
yea i got yelled at about that once...
Vince says:
lol
Vince says:
I remember that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but you have to be able to command the respect of everyone so they all participate and do em right
Lavitz says:
yea. so does jack and runis...
Vince says:
dont get snippy with me boy
Vince says:
Raian says:
Focus kids nows not the time for reflection upon illustrious pranks.
Vince says:
teehee
Lavitz says:
no i meant that they both know about it cause runis was the one yelling and jack was sitting back laughing at the whole thing
Lavitz says:
wasnt trying to be mean vince
Vince says:
oh yeah
Raian says:
So as you see it Jack how are we going to handel masteR?
Raian says:
and trials and such
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well im getting to that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if we are done with the subject of trials....
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
?
Lavitz says:
yep im done
Vince says:
Im done
Raian says:
I have nothing new to add, unless something was missed
Next Post
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
Good day everyone
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
the first thing i wanted to bring up was whether or not you guys think we should have a CoC
Vince says:
Aye
Vince says:
we should
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
alright, what do you think should be the conduct required in it?
Vince says:
Same stuff as old-school SR
Lavitz says:
well i think we should have a set of rules that will keep things at least a bit under control
Lavitz says:
but nothign too strict
Vince says:
basically, be nice, limit foul language, follow rules, etc
Lavitz says:
i know one thing ronin wanted was to keep the offencive/abusive/swear words to an extreme minimum
Lavitz says:
both in game and on forums
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well on the forums that can be done with a censor
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
in game the admins have to monitor that
Vince says:
Aye
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
so would it be ok for occasional cussing as long as it isnt excessive?
Lavitz says:
but we dont need constant ampsay spams... ahem vinny...
Vince says:
Yes
Vince says:
Ronin doesnt mind the occasional cussing
Vince says:
Hes stated that before
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok so we should have a CoC, should people have to agree to it in order to join?
Vince says:
sure
Raian says:
The admins would only have to censor more extreme words methinks. Words like Damn shouldn't be included.
Vince says:
I agree with Runis
Lavitz says:
well if they dont agree to it, thats is them simply stating that they are going to break the rules and eventually be removed. so id sauy yes
Raian says:
They should, that way we have a "legally binding" contract that everyone has to follow.
Vince says:
I dont care about damn, hell, son of a bitch
Vince says:
just the extreme stuffs
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and how many strikes do you think people should get?
Vince says:
3
Lavitz says:
2
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
3?
Vince says:
well, kick on 3rd strike
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
id think a warning and then the punishment
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well kick is when they need to be removed from the server
Lavitz says:
if they break the rules once, they get warned. if they do it again they deserve punishment
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but first they lame, they get warned verbally
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
next time they are slept
Raian says:
Lets say an admin does not want to censor words on the surver. If they sign the contract they have no choice but to do so y'know?
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
next the are kicked
Vince says:
thats what I mean jack
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Raian says:
or we keep them around for amusment...and make a game out of them if any of you remember us doing that.
Vince says:
oh yeah!
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
true
Vince says:
lawl
Lavitz says:
omg dont start vicky...
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok so in the CoC no excessive language, no laming, no spamming...anything else?
Raian says:
Eh Jamie? make sure to add respect to that
Vince says:
haha, Jamie is a total girlie name
Lavitz says:
heh heh yea guess we could use a little but of that
Lavitz says:
so is vicky
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and above all respect the people you play with
Vince says:
yeop
Lavitz says:
bit*
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
next item of business
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
recruiting
Raian says:
I think ronin already covered that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
i know
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but give your thoughts and suggestions
Raian says:
3 week trial period, we look for good behavior etc. etc.
Vince says:
yeah
Vince says:
basically, SR rules
Raian says:
Master can be asigned if they soo desire and/or need to be trained
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
are they given a master when they are on their trial period
Lavitz says:
lets face it. this game is not as popular as it was day 1. but look at the server list. its still HUGE. so i think over time, we will get a lot of member traffic.
Lavitz says:
if they need one jack
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
then we need to define the master's duties
Lavitz says:
well, i guess one could be assigned as a buddy reguardless of their skill level
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
so that we dont run into the same problems we had in sr
Lavitz says:
someone who can help them out and get to know everyone and such
Vince says:
aye
Vince says:
I agree with James here
Lavitz says:
kinda like someone to shadow like you would maybe on the first day of a new job
Lavitz says:
get them familiar with forum and server rules, show them around and introduce them to other members, tell them who the whores are that they need to look out for and such.
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
is it the masters responsibility to end trial the new member at the apropriate time?
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
or should the new recruit post about it?
Vince says:
Maybe we should have a few set masters, whos job is to help the new guys out
Raian says:
If master will be a rank, then I'd say yes.
Lavitz says:
i think that the day a new recruit joins should be recorded in their welcome post and then it is the masters responsibility to keep track of when the trail period should end
Lavitz says:
the end date should be posted in the welcome post as well maybe
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok thats a good idea
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
masters can refer to their welcome post as a guideline for their end trial date
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and should trials be like they were in sr?
Vince says:
sure
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
4/6 or on the grace of the master?
Vince says:
it worked for SR
Raian says:
we can always have a master forum section where the name of the recruit is posted with their beginnign date and the end date
Lavitz says:
i liked the trial setup as far as end trials go that we had set up
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Lavitz says:
3 fights against 2 members.
Lavitz says:
4/6 or maybe even 3/6
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well thats why its 4/6 or on the grace of the master
Lavitz says:
as well as going on forum and game activity and how well liked they are
Raian says:
Perhaps we shouldn't be SO lenient as we were back then, letting a lot of people passby when it was obvious that they needed to learn more
Vince says:
well this clan isnt all about skill
Lavitz says:
well perhaps we should allow those who do not get 4/6 to join on a sort of 2nd trial period
Lavitz says:
but where they are recognised as members of the clan
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
in sr they got another trial period
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
another week before their next end trial
Lavitz says:
and then they could have second trials after learning more with their master and then we go by the results there
Raian says:
It may not be about skill, but we should not let somone who obviously knows nothing in. Getting better shows sort of a commitment to the game/clan. A characteristic that is something we sorta overlooked before.
Vince says:
True
Lavitz says:
like jack said, the thing we had before where they get another week as trial members. but i think it should be a bit more extended. they arent going to learn much mor ein a week
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if they failed again they got another week
Lavitz says:
see we need to cut down on that though. i mean if we keep giving them another week, and another week, and another week, it will go ojn forever
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
until they get in
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
what i think about that is that yes it could go on forever
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
unless we make it the masters duty to get together with the student and really work on things with them
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and if they cant get a master to help out and do so
Raian says:
If it continues forever the master will have to decide if its A) due to the Initiate or B) due to the fact their training does not cut it.
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
that too
Vince says:
theres a lot of things about dueling that you cant teach
Raian says:
Example?
Vince says:
timing
Lavitz says:
getting people to break their habit of using red overhead. every. single. time.
Vince says:
I win duels with it
Vince says:
shut the fudge up about it already
Lavitz says:
ease up a bit there vinny
Vince says:
Well dude, every single day SOMEONE bitches about it
Vince says:
its getting annoying
Lavitz says:
remember the respect thing jack mentioned?
Vince says:
You started it
Raian says:
Kids...LAv stop antagonizing and poket keep your cool
Raian says:
save that for a seperate conversation
Lavitz says:
its jaden. not poke.
Vince says:
lol
Raian says:
MOVING on ( i mispelled pocket)
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
what we can do about that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
we can take them aside for an hour
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and im willing to break them in
Raian says:
For the record Lav your not so great yourself so you can learn just as much as he can.
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
duel them for hours if need be
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but what you are talking about
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
comes with experience
Raian says:
Aye breaking them, Like "the Demon" broke us Jack?
Lavitz says:
i know. im not gonna deny that statemenet at all. but he didnt have to yell at me
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
so if they need a crash course in it so be it
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
yes
Vince says:
You didnt have to bitch about me
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
the "demon" with a cold...muahaha
Raian says:
He doesn't even have one...
Raian says:
Moving on
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
anyways
Raian says:
You can teach timing
Raian says:
I did and Jack picked it up pretty well
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
it takes time though
Raian says:
same with Drax
Raian says:
its not an easy W,D,W but its possible
Raian says:
whether the person absorbs that knowledge being taught...different story
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but what happens is lets say a pomising student fails his end trials
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
then their master lets someone know
Vince says:
I failed both my end trials
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
another master
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but listen
Vince says:
I got let in SR because of my attitude
Vince says:
so
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok thats good
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
we'll be looking for that too
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but what im saying is we have as many people as we can support this new student
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if everywhere s/he turns they get encouragement
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
and help, it'll show in their next end trial
Raian says:
It's not that they HAVE to passtheir trial, but we need to see evidence that they are capable of doing so and one day have the capasity to do so
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
getting 4/6 is really what to shoot for
Raian says:
And more like they turn to the Master"S" not just the assigned Master
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if you stay positive despite the fact that you maybe dont get it
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
we like that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
dont we?
Vince says:
Aye
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
anything else to add here?
Raian says:
Admin
Raian says:
How to use it
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
i mean about trials
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ill get to admin
Raian says:
oh..my bad
Raian says:
I think it should be a rank
Lavitz says:
i agree with the turning to new masters thing. ive worked with mourt, sano, and you jack and with each new master ive gotten better. so learning from multiple people helps
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
trial members have a rank?
Raian says:
We don't want masters to be people who cant do it due to either Time constraints or lack of ability to do so
Lavitz says:
yea. Trial Member\
Vince says:
noob<XA>
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
like in sr
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ah
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
sure
Lavitz says:
that way, people know who the trial members are. people know who the masters are
Lavitz says:
that way if a trial member shows up and cant get a hold of his master, someone can point him in the direction of a different master
Vince says:
yeah
Vince says:
I had to get a different master in SR
Vince says:
cause Macnac was never opn
Vince says:
on*
Raian says:
I'm thinking they should be assigned a Master, more that that Masters should be around for them to get help from
Raian says:
For some the fact you MUST have a master is degrading
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
we can ask new recruits if they want a master
Vince says:
well if they cant handle the fact that they need improvement...
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but if its fairly obvious they need one then we can assign one
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
some people teach themselves
Vince says:
true
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
alright anything else on the subject of trials?
Raian says:
oops
Vince says:
I got nothin
Raian says:
"Should NOT be assigned*"
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
ok
Lavitz says:
umm for end trials
Lavitz says:
one sec jack
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
k
Lavitz says:
we need to have a setup where we can have people on to do end trials for trial members
Lavitz says:
both people to run the trials,
Lavitz says:
and people to be part fo them
Lavitz says:
oF*
Lavitz says:
of**
Vince says:
Im always availabe for the most part
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if ya know how to run them respectfully i dont have a problem with you running them
Lavitz says:
yea i got yelled at about that once...
Vince says:
lol
Vince says:
I remember that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
but you have to be able to command the respect of everyone so they all participate and do em right
Lavitz says:
yea. so does jack and runis...
Vince says:
dont get snippy with me boy
Vince says:
Raian says:
Focus kids nows not the time for reflection upon illustrious pranks.
Vince says:
teehee
Lavitz says:
no i meant that they both know about it cause runis was the one yelling and jack was sitting back laughing at the whole thing
Lavitz says:
wasnt trying to be mean vince
Vince says:
oh yeah
Raian says:
So as you see it Jack how are we going to handel masteR?
Raian says:
and trials and such
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
well im getting to that
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
if we are done with the subject of trials....
Kyle - "I think it's even worse when you're in a situation where the object of your desire is being nice to you and liking you, says:
?
Lavitz says:
yep im done
Vince says:
Im done
Raian says:
I have nothing new to add, unless something was missed
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